I ordered 5012's from cdn tire a few days ago b/c the were far cheaper than anywhere else. Lordco wanted either $90 or $100, alders wanted either $80 or $90, cambodian is gettin me them for $56. But anyways, I got the back end all done today! Ended up with more lift than expected. 3" lift block, 1" add a leaf, chevy's (3"), and the buggies ended up giving me another 3", for 10" of lift. But it'll sag a bit more with the box on and gas tank and what not, b/c it is really soft. I can bounce the back end around with no effort from my arm. The problem is with all the lift and with the amount of flex I will get, I don't think 5012's will be long enough. We haven't actually flexed it out yet, but just by calculating it, they're too short. They have 18" of travel right? And now with the amount of lift, the front end is too small at 6" so something has to be changed.