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I was wondering what's the best stock 4x4? The cost of the vehical dosen't matter and well....you can have any set of tires you wish b/c factory stock truck tires sux. I'm thinking Land Rover or bigger Land Cruser, XJ, hummmm.....Hummer? And yes there is alway buying a POS and droping the 35k into it but well thats not stock and no too road friendly
 

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Or one of these


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Jeep Rubicon (When it comes out)...
Toyota Tacoma w/ TRD...

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Jeep Grand Cherokee.

Thats why every 4x4 magazine gave it 4x4 of the year.

With automatic lockers front and rear, the 4.7 litre V8, leather interrior and huge stero.....how can you go wrong?
 

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Whoa, the Grand has lockers front and rear? I thought it just had limited poop?


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Whats the new Land Rover's name again? You know, it's small and kind of bubbly, has that god awful auto braking system....if thats the defender than you guys are on crack. it came in either last or next to last in every mags review, it has no lockers, no limited slip, 1 speed transfercase and is underpowered. It can't be the defender, I wish I could remember the name of the damned thing.

Anyway yes I thought it was common knowledge that the Grand Cherokee has lockers front and rear. I beleive they are hydrolically controlled, i may be wrong though. It's pretty amazing to go out on a dirt road and slam your foot to the floor and have all 250 horses going to the ground, no wheel spin at all, just neck snapping acceleration as if it were on pavement. I forgot one more attribute that is rather important to the GC...the solid front axel.
 

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Wow Doug, you're pretty set on the Unibody Cherokee, in fact you're so set on it you participate in the disscusion revolving on an assumption that the participants know other brands of vehicles as it involves analizing differances between them.
I assume you actually drive a Cherokee, and that is the reason you rave about it so much. It is by no means a bad vehicle, however it is not the only one made with a solid axle in the front. As a matter of fact I am not on CRACK, as maybe you are, and the Defender is not that CRV version of a Landrover you are talking about. I will not describe what it actually is, I'll let you do your own reaserch!




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I would love to see a Grand Cherokee go head to head with stock Landrovers and MB G-class wagons on the Camel Trophy...ha ha ha...that would be a joke!!!

The "lockers" are viscous couplings (kinda hydraulic) made by Dana for Jeep, AFAIK, not a true locker because wheel spin envokes the lock up. The G-class has three selectable lockers, front and rear axles and transfer case, they do not use wheel spin to engage.

Unlimited budget for your dream vehicle and you still pick a Jeep
At least pick something that has more metal than plastic


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Jeep Wrangler Rubicon all the way!



4-liter, dana44's, 4.10's, 4:1 low range, 31"MTR's, air lockers enough said!

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Ok ok. Mudkick you need to re-read my post. Read it carefully and sound out all the letters out loud. Keep in mind that a word like "That's" actually means "that is" (I know its amazing).You should probably ask someone for help.

Anyway after you are done you will see that I did not say anything of the sort. Yes, the Landrover I was talking about was the Freelander (thanks Jarrett.)If you re-read the post you will see that I was admitting that I did not remember the name of the peice of garbage. No I do not drive a Grand Cherokee, I just have a lot of experience with them. No, I do not like the unibody design either.

I think when need-a-jeep posted this he did not mean "any vehicle". I beleive he meant stock as in common 4x4's from the common manufacturers. Ofcourse I could import a Mercedes or drop a huge load of money on a Hummer or something. Or how about a UNimog? Everyone has those right?
 

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I find it interesting that none of the mags mentioned these "lockers" of which you people speak in their reviews of the Grand. Oh and that Rubicon Wrangler's "diamond plated rocker protection" better be chock full of damned-diamond-goodness because that thing sits freaking low to the ground man.

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hummm...everything sounds goos so far. ahhhh unimogs are sweet but too big for me although i would be able to hule everything for longer excursions including that Jeep Rubicon. G-wagons are sweet too but some of the new ones cost over 120k. I'm still leaning towards a Land Rover or Hummer like the alumminium bodies they have. Actually i would get a unimog the Tantra (4x4 pif...6x6 rules)

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Wow, I have never heard of a Grand Cherokee going for 120k! I have never heard of one going for even 100k. Are you sure it is stock?

Every mag talks about the lockers. It is part of the Quadratrac system. They generally use the technical term though. I will dif up my last petersons and get it.
 
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