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Here's a bit of a head scratcher for you techies: I switched to Avira recently after getting tired of ESET, but pretty much right after I don't know exactly what happened but I believe it might have something to do with java scripts or a virus or something, basically my internet won't have anything to do with Google or the sort. MSN messenger won't work, weather network, BC4X4's still fine but a touch slow to initially load (same with HBC.ca, and a couple of other truck forums I follow). Email's boned, youtube comes up as basic script without allowing me to see the vids. Restarts and runs fine, not slow or laboured. I pretty much can't access any internet outside of some basic forums. It seems to be internet settings more than a virus, or something's blocking it. I've tried changing the settings I know of, but to no avail.

Its a 1.5 yo Toshiba 2 core processor on Vista. Anyone have any thoughts before I take it outside and shoot it? LR
 

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what kind of software and hardware firewalls do you use? having a paid antivirus like norton is a really good idea. Routers will generally act as a hardware firewall too.

A buddy of mine in the past had a virus kind of like the one your talking about. It was sending spam to everyone on his buddy list in msn hotmail/messenger. He was using some crappy free antivirus software from the net and it wouldn't detect anything for him. He ended up re-routing his internet connection through a router and then into his comp and it seemed to temporarily disable the virus. This gave him time to install a proper antivirus program and rid his computer of the problem.
 

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D-link router in the basement. It was a paid version of ESET, I'm just tired of paying $50/yr for an AV program. I know there's cracked stuff out there but I've never gotten that far into these things, I prefer to run 'em into the ground and shoot 'em. I about ready to shoot it and start over. I barely use it to check a few forums and my email and thats it.

MSN hotmail and messenger's gotta be about the worst thing for spreading junk, I'm constantly getting stuff from people on the list. I never click on anything but who knows, maybe just getting it sent is enough to catch something with an inadequate AV maybe. LR
 

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Did you fully uninstall ESET before you installed Avira...? If not try doing a system restore before you installed it..Then completely uninstall ESET..Reboot PC see if everything works as normal then install Avira..
Good Luck..! I run a cracked ESET & have never had a problem ;)
 

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run your vista internet connection wizard that I should fix any thing that been broken, BUT if you have some connections but others time out 1st I'd check that Avira is not link scanning/firewalling all your connections 1st .
 

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First thing you should do it try disabling this Avira program. There should be an icon down on the task tray near the clock. Right-click and see if there is a disable option. Test the sites that you are having issues getting too. If they work then you know its the program thats blocking them, if not, then it could be something else in your PC.
Second, download Malwarebytes and run a Full scan on your PC. After the Malwarebytes scan is complete, tell it to clean off everything if finds.
Third, click on Start --> Run. Type in MRT, hit enter. Run a scan with Microsoft Malicious software Removal Tool. Between MRT and MalwareBytes, it should get most of anything that might be causing a problem. Best is to run these tools in Safe Mode, but that is not always necessary.
The last set would be running a System Restore from a time that everything was working. Running the system restore wont cause you to loose any data, but it will screw up installed programs.

The first couple of steps should point you in the direction to fixing the problem.
 

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not 100% sure how you can fix the problem but in terms of a good free antivirus, AVG is pretty good. running it on 5 computers in the house and no viruses so far. its good at catching them too.
 

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Avira's gone, I deleted that the other day. I haven't had a chance to run MRT yet, but for whatever reason MSN's back and most of my internet.. but the 'choose dialup' screen's coming up for when configuring my wireless card (for running off cell systems, so possibly something's trying to dial out).

Can anyone recommend a good AV, or at least shoot me a version of a cracked one, cause I'm really not into paying for that stuff. Cheers and thanks for your guy's help. LR
 

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AVG or run without one.

AVG is rated one of the highest free Anti-Virus products available for Windows. Cracked versions of anti-cirus software will likely not stay up-to-date which makes them useless in about 1-2 months.

Your router acts like a hardware firewall that stops all incoming invuluntary traffic from reaching your system. Anything installed or infected on your system after you install a router is usually caused by the user themselves by clicking a link or whatever.
 

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Seems to be running fine aside from the auto-dialer for my USB PC card coming up occasionally, I can live with that. Got AVG running now, malwarebytes and AVG didn't come up with anything so I'm thinking its more something screwy in the settings.

Search feature isn't kicking in either to run MRT, can I get a manual link to it to dig it out of the windows file please? I've dug around myself but I can't find it. Thanks. LR
 

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Your problem sounds like Vista screwiness to me. Make sure you don't have multiple security programs running. I am still running XP so I can't really help you, but, I'll give y'all some advice.

I agree you don't really, really, really need an antivirus, but it's a good idea to have one if your surfing habits are, shall we say, less than puritan in nature.

I ran AVG for years, and was happy with it until a few months ago, when it started to really bog my macine down. Lots of other people also experienced this problem, so I ditched AVG and went with AVAST. It's free and very transparent.

What you do need is a good firewall, and I still recommend Zone Alarm, which is also free. It is better than the windows firewall because among other things it protects in BOTH directions.


If you want to test the security of your machine go here http://www.grc.com and run the SHields Up! and Leak Test programs.
 

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seriously matt...get a mac. you'll never have to deal with antivirus BS again. ever. the time & money saved dealing with these sorts of issues can be better spent. sure you'll pay a bit more up front, but you'll have a notebook that you wont need to replace in a couple years. if you have to buy a new machine even every 5 years, theres no money being saved.

one should be allowed to roam the internet freely without worries of adware, malware, underwear and tupperware. i switched over many years ago, have searched many a suspect site, downloaded at my will, and no issues. i dont even run any AV crap. the tower i bought 7 years ago was a 3 year old used tower. aside from a processor & ram upgrade, no issues whatsoever. i dont think there is anyone i know using a windows based computer thats over 10 years old...just a testament as to how rock solid these machines are...

good luck in your PC troubleshooting.
 

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Your problem sounds like Vista screwiness to me. Make sure you don't have multiple security programs running. I am still running XP so I can't really help you, but, I'll give y'all some advice.

I agree you don't really, really, really need an antivirus, but it's a good idea to have one if your surfing habits are, shall we say, less than puritan in nature.

I ran AVG for years, and was happy with it until a few months ago, when it started to really bog my macine down. Lots of other people also experienced this problem, so I ditched AVG and went with AVAST. It's free and very transparent.

What you do need is a good firewall, and I still recommend Zone Alarm, which is also free. It is better than the windows firewall because among other things it protects in BOTH directions.


If you want to test the security of your machine go here http://www.grc.com and run the SHields Up! and Leak Test programs.
It is a standard misconception that one needs a firewall installed on their computer when it is connected to the internet. However, a router is a hardware firewall that serves this purpose.

By installing ZoneAlarm on a computer connected to a network behind a router, your essentially running two firewalls back to back to safe guard your PC which can lead to conflicts if you don't know how to set it up correctly.

However, if this is a laptop, it may be beneficial to have one installed incase you are plugging in outside your network.

seriously matt...get a mac. you'll never have to deal with antivirus BS again. ever. the time & money saved dealing with these sorts of issues can be better spent. sure you'll pay a bit more up front, but you'll have a notebook that you wont need to replace in a couple years. if you have to buy a new machine even every 5 years, theres no money being saved.
Macs are good for the average surf the web, check your e-mail user. However, their latest OS is riddled with issues. You will also run into compatibility issues when you try and access files or want to use software made for Windows machines.

Macs are not as secure as you might think. Its the type of mentality of "My computer is the minority, so I don't need protection on it" that will be the ultimate demise of apple software and their users:

http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=2917

This contest is held every year where hackers and security specialists try to find exploits in software run on common computers. Safari web broswer was hacked and the hacker had full control over the Macbook in less than 5 seconds. All the user had to do was click a google link.

iPhone Hacked:

http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=5836&tag=content;col2

Took a dude 2 weeks at the same contest to hack IE8 on Windows 7:

http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=5855&tag=content;col2

Just some food for thought, which computer is more secure? One that is a minority with no security or one that is a majority with high security?

I don't put my trust in ignorance.
 

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i dont put my trust in ignorance either. i put my trust in numbers. all the people i know that have had macs (alot) have had ZERO issues . 100% problem free. many of the PC users i know have had multiple issues with them. id say about 30% problem free, but these are IT/Geek guys with no issues. in my case, the minorty with no security is doing alot better with the majority with uber high security. wether it be a virus, or malware, permissions OS issues...whatever. one shouldnt have to be a geek in order to have a problem free computing life...

if you want to run windows based applications, macs can run windows. alot of the times, better than windows based PCs can. iirc when XP or Vista came out, it performed best on a macbook pro. this was a few years ago, but still. thats gotta say something. the wifes 4 year old macbook runs xp flawlessly and very quickly. i dont use it much in windows, but it sure runs alot better than the windows machines at work.

not trying to turn this into a mac vs pc debate. theres enough of those already. im just trying to offer a different yet viable & effective (IMO) solution to matt taking his 2 year old laptop outside and shooting it. dont do that matt! put it on CL and take the money to buy a new macbook pro! i use windows at work, and mac at home...so i can easily compare the 2 platforms and give real world advice. the pc's at work are heavily setup for security purposes. we're still running XP. i wouldnt touch vista or 7 with a 10 foot pole.
 

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It's tempting to say "Buy a mac" but yeah they're stupid expensive. Plus, if their market share ever jumps up a ton, people will start making viruses for them and I'll be in trouble, -_-

One I use is Avast antivirus, but I still use XP. You could check their website to see if it's Vista / 7 compatible.

http://www.avast.com/en-ca/security-software-home-office

I actually had it recommended by a computer shop, and I'll never use Norton again.
 

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screw windows AND mac...

for the occasional internet browser and web crawler, ubuntu is the way to go :D







fully customizable, all software is free, the OS itself is free, lifetime free upgrades, no viruses no antiviruses no headaches best of all no WINDOWS! :D

you can run it off the cd and try it out before fully installing it. if you dont like it just chuck the disk :D

one word of caution. it does take a bit of getting used to. you can't run ALL windows applications for it but there is almost a free equivalent for every piece of software out there. i.e. gimp = photoshop (not as great as photoshop but for something thats free it does the job).

it also features this really cool 3d desktop :D

 

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It solved itself, I deleted the dialup settings for the wireless internet stick and that solved the popup screens. I'm running AVG 9 now with spybot S&D running the background and it seems to be fine. I've done multiple searches on here with pretty much every AV service I could find - no results. I'm pretty sure something just got F'ed up in the settings from Avira.

My search habits are actually pretty damn clean, I'm on here to check several hunting and 4wd forums, email, and I do a ton of reading on Wikipedia. Its a Toshiba laptop, approx 1.5 yrs old and its doing fine now (I think the fact that it got half way outside to meeting its demise from a 12 ga round woke it up.. I only stopped because I remembered at the last minute that I haven't backed up some of my latest pics yet). I don't use computers enough to justify buying a Mac, even if it is tempting. I could lose this one and I wouldn't shed a tear over it at all.

Thanks a ton for the help and heads up on programs and features. Cheers
 

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if you want to run windows based applications, macs can run windows. alot of the times, better than windows based PCs can. iirc when XP or Vista came out, it performed best on a macbook pro. this was a few years ago, but still. thats gotta say something. the wifes 4 year old macbook runs xp flawlessly and very quickly. i dont use it much in windows, but it sure runs alot better than the windows machines at work.
Another misconception. The benchmarks and comparisons were done on machines with different hardware. They compared laptop models as opposed to benchmarking equal hardware. Apple is a hardware distribution company just like Dell and HP and it uses the same hardware that is in everyones PC right now.

When you compare two systems that have:

2.0 GHz CPU
4 GB DDR2 RAM @ 666mhz
120GB hard-drive @ 5400 RPM

to

2.0CPU
4GB DD2 RAM @ 800 mhz
120 GB hard-drive @ 7200 RPM

The second will almost always be faster. Unfortunately, the average user can't really tell the difference between the two.

not trying to turn this into a mac vs pc debate. theres enough of those already. im just trying to offer a different yet viable & effective (IMO) solution to matt taking his 2 year old laptop outside and shooting it. dont do that matt! put it on CL and take the money to buy a new macbook pro! i use windows at work, and mac at home...so i can easily compare the 2 platforms and give real world advice. the pc's at work are heavily setup for security purposes. we're still running XP. i wouldnt touch vista or 7 with a 10 foot pole.
Windows 7 is great. Imo it performs better, is more stable, and has less problems then OSX Snow Leopard. It sucks that you haven't or are unwilling to try it because it is definately an improvement over XP and miles ahead of Vista.

You can't compare the 2 platforms because your computer at your work is setup differently then your home computers. Have you ever used an apple computer under an enterprise level apple infastructure with the same login and security restrictions implemented and the same network traffric imposed on it during start ups, shut downs, and using programs? Yeah, I didn't think so. Those conditions do exist in the Mac universe and companies do implement that level of security on these systems too.

The biggest benefit Windows has over Mac is that when something goes wrong, it generates an error message, with an error code, and can be looked up to find a solution, even for a general user. Mac users are not presented with this information and instead need to take their hardware back to the macstore to have them look at it.

I have to support a number of mac users and mac labs where I work. They are no better than any PC. Most of their problems stem from incompatible software and hardware. People trying to do stuff that they could do on their PCs on their Macs and running into trouble and not knowing why. Yes, you can install Windows XP, Vista, or even Windows 7 on your Apple computer, but that makes you vulnerable to ALL the threats presented by using a Windows based PC.
 
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