Done. Definitely sounds like they're trolling to push us out of there pretty hardcore. LR
push us out, no.
the city of mission is well aware of what goes on at stave lake ( the illegal stuff ), they also know about the amount of people go up there to use dirt bikes, qauds, and 4x4 / buggys, etc...
back in 2009 this project came to light and the city of mission along with other associations like site and trail BC ( front counter BC ) counted the amount of users who used the area and started thinking about how a profit could be turned and also to increase safety for the area of the users and that of the impending Tim Hortons Kids camp to the north of stave that started this whole project.
Kim ( President of the 4wdabc ) and the rest of the 4WDABC are working with a wide range of people to gain input and suggestions to make the area enjoyable for all wheelers, from buggy owners to guys with toyotas/jeeps or whatever.
http://www.mission.ca/wp-content/up...ies-Feasibility-Analysis-FINAL-May-5-2009.pdf
here are the quick points for the lazy:
key notes:
RECOMMENDATIONS
The following actions are recommended in order to control access, reduce rowdyism, enhance
wholesome forest recreation opportunities and assist in the diversification of Mission’s economy:
1. Create Comprehensive Management Plan and Business Plans.
2. Secure funding through a range of government, non-profit and for-profit organizations.
3.
Designate the west side of TFL 26 as a Recreation Site.
4. Enter in to a Partnership Agreement with the MoTCA.
5.
Install a Recreation Gatehouse at the south end of Florence Road.
6.
Develop campgrounds and a network of trails.
7. Enter in to a Partnership Agreement with BC Hydro for the operation of the Stave Lake
boat launch.
Active User Groups
Stave River Salmonid Enhancement Society
Four Wheel Drive Association of BC (
www.4wdabc.ca)
Fraser Valley Mountain Bike Association (
www.fvmba.com)
Back Country Horsemen of BC (
www.bchorsemen.org)
Mission Rod & Gun Club (
www.missionrodandgun.com)
Local Snowmobile Club
Haney Horsemen
Interested User Groups
Rock crawling (
www.crawlinbc.com)
Dual Sport BC
There are many conflicts between different user groups that presently use the TFL. As the first
un-gated access to Crown Land east of Vancouver,
the area is extremely popular with four
wheelers and many users feel a certain degree of ownership - that it is their “own backyard.”
The provision of a safe place for parking is not only of interest to users, but also to
ICBC who pays insurance claims that can be directly attributed to illegal activity in the TFL.
One of the considerations in assessing the potential market is how users would feel about paying
a fee to enter and/ or camp in the TFL. In the 2008 TFL User Survey, 73% of respondents said
that they would consider paying user fees to enjoy their recreational activities in an improved,
maintained and safe recreation area. The majority of survey respondents felt that a user fee was
justified as long as the users could see the benefits in a safe
and well maintained area.
Three campgrounds are proposed: one at Devil’s Lake (vehicle), one at Sayres Lake
(vehicle) and one at Morgan Lake (hike-in). Sayres Lake would be the easiest lake at
which to create campgrounds because it is already part of an existing Recreation Site.
Additional potential campsites could be in proximity to the mud flat area at Rocky Point
(possibly in conjunction with a kayak rental), a group campsite at the south end of Sayres
Lake and camping at Rockwell Delta, both on the bluff and near the lake.
There is also
potential in time for RV camping along Stave Lake.
Additional recreational activities that are identified on the Recreation Zoning Plan include
fishing, hiking trail destinations,
locations to drive off-road vehicles, and locations for
winter activities.
Proposed revenue includes Recreation Gatehouse fees and
Campground fees. Grants include government-sponsored programs and grants from ICBC, nonprofit
organizations and grants in-kind from some of the user groups
The Gatehouse will require staffing to monitor traffic, collect fees and inform the public of
recreational activity opportunities and the regulations in place to manage the area. The
gate would be manned by 1 staff 24 hours a day/ 7 days a week, and 1 additional staff
during busy summer months (1/3 of the year).
All vehicles would pay: $10/ day starting in Year 2. This would increase to $12/ day at
Year 5, with another rise at Year 10. Passes would be offered, allowing discounted day
use fees.
Additional Gatehouse funding is possible from volunteer contributions and assistance
from organized user groups including the Stave Salmon Enhancement Society, 4x4 club,
ATV club, snowmobile club, Fraser Valley Mountain Bike Association and others. At the
Open House these user groups were eager to assist. The groups could assist in raising
funds, installation of infrastructure, monitoring the site and clean up of areas when
required.
Monitor Recreational Activities
Monitor the TFL year-round, with additional monitoring during summer months. Security
of the TFL will be an essential component of services provided
Develop additional recreational opportunities
Develop trails for mountain biking, equestrian and hiking. Create a mountain bike skills
park. ( 4x4 trails as well )
Develop a signage program
A coordinated signage program should be developed. It should include zoning of
recreation types (e.g. multi-use vs. non-motorized zones) and clear wayfinding signage –
locations of day use areas, campgrounds, trails etc. The MoTCA has signage standards
that should be used in conjunction with the District’s standards
C
ouncil member / Board member – COMMENTS
- Rod & Gun Club very supportive. They suggest firearms ban altogether from this area.
Don’t want hunting ban. Specify where we zone.
-ATV’s – not a lot of places for them to go (lots of sales in this industry) Motorized opportunities – 25,000 quads in lower mainland with nowhere to go. Safety,
day trips – best location.
non-motorized users – hikers, horsemen, trail runners.
-Parking – people want a safe place to park their vehicles
-ORV (Outdoor Recreation Vehicle) areas in Bear Creek, Kelowna – we need ORV area
close by.
Could enter partnership agreement with 4 wheel drive association. Tread lightly
program, clean up.
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Establishments – trails within forestry
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Synergy with user groups – 4x4, ATV etc. (they don’t want bad apples either)
-ATV problems – would be nice to work with organized club.
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Gatehouse- will reduce 90% of vandalism.
