Just got back from the springs. Snow started @ 9km mark up clear ck road. I drove to 12k. I only had a f150 4x4, others with chains drove to aout 14k where a huge tree blocks the road. The springs are at 17k and were in great shape. An eight year old could make in but with the snow getting softer snowshoes are a good idea (there's about 2' - 3' at the springs. Now is a good time to go before the useage goes way up.