[grumpyguy]

Seems the Libs tried to hide a new tax buried in the back of the budget. The tax on privately sold auto's goes from 7% to 12%. Thanks Gordo, it's hard enough to get by as it is but now you want to hurt the working class again? Have to pay for those Olyimpics some how.

:whiteflag:

 

[Lone Ranger]

All the more reason to give your vehicles away as "gifts" when you sell them LR

 

[seatosky]

It wasn't really hidden - it was just never mentioned in the news. It's the HST replacing the PST on used cars.

Besides, if times are tough, then it doesn't really matter to cash strapped working class people because they shouldn't be going out and buying expensive used cars. (Assuming that nobody will really care about the extra couple hundred dollars on a cheap used car)

 

[frank]

I've always felt there shouldn't be any tax on used cars. They get taxed when new, then every time they're resold. For one that gets sold a few times that adds up.
I also don't like paying tax on tax on gasoline, and I don't like... oh, wait what I don't like doesn't much matter.

 

[bcsavage]

I always lower the price on paper or gift vehicles I sell for the exact reason stated above (vehicles are taxed when they are new, shouldn't be taxed again and again everytime it changes hands).

 

[Fordsforever73]

I've always felt there shouldn't be any tax on used cars. They get taxed when new, then every time they're resold. For one that gets sold a few times that adds up.

Agree...I think we call that extortion...no/yes?

 

[Road Dog]

It wasn't really hidden - it was just never mentioned in the news. It's the HST replacing the PST on used cars.

Since there's no GST on used stuff there would be NO HST on used stuff. In this case all 12% goes to the province since it's not HST. Think of it as a new property transfer tax.

 

[bcsavage]

Since there's no GST on used stuff there would be NO HST on used stuff. In this case all 12% goes to the province since it's not HST. Think of it as a new property transfer tax.

I'd really just rather not think about it at all. I'll place my wishful thinking on 2012 being a reality check for the entire world

 

[Lone Ranger]

Its really turning in to quite a crock of chit. Campbell has racked up so much debt over the Olympics, sold off an unknown amount of our natural resources, pushing through tax upon tax to fund his mishaps, and the list goes on and on. I guess thats the danger of a majority government, maybe stuff does get done easier but its not always the right things. And who knows where we'd be if Ms. James got in, that'd be an even far scarier prospect. She's pretty decent at nagging and cracking off negative comment after negative comment in the Lib's direction, but I've never once heard her say anything constructive or offer up any plans. Not really much of a choice, is it?

LR

 

[Tmax]

Its really turning in to quite a crock of chit. Campbell has racked up so much debt over the Olympics, sold off an unknown amount of our natural resources, pushing through tax upon tax to fund his mishaps, and the list goes on and on. I guess thats the danger of a majority government, maybe stuff does get done easier but its not always the right things. And who knows where we'd be if Ms. James got in, that'd be an even far scarier prospect. She's pretty decent at nagging and cracking off negative comment after negative comment in the Lib's direction, but I've never once heard her say anything constructive or offer up any plans. Not really much of a choice, is it?

LR

the extra tax is bs but in my veiw, we are still paying for ndp screw ups and the people that support them. money doesnt grow on trees.

 

[d0ubledown]

money doesnt grow on trees.

here in bc it does...but not on trees. just lil 3-4' plants.

imo, the HST is all gordo's doing. :finger_1: you gordo. they should have locked you up in hawaii...

 

[Lone Ranger]

:finger_1: you gordo. they should have locked you up in hawaii...

I'd even foot the bill to toss him in a box and ship him down there express freight. LR

 

[Cakes]

I'd even foot the bill to toss him in a box and ship him down there express freight. LR

and i'd buy you a pitcher of beer every time we hit a trail just for doing so

 

[The11thNickel]

Ugh. . . So sick of Campbell. Every time there's some new legislation, I don't know a SINGLE person who finds something positive or likeable about it. I wish our ELECTED government actually did some stuff the voters liked / didn't completely hate.

 

[crazyguy]

government in general can go jump off a tall cliff as far as im concerned. to save myself some $$$ since I live so close to the border most of my grocery shopping is now done in lyndon and bellingham, we can't bring back any fresh fruit or veggies so thats still local. with the dollar, the price of product on the shelf down there, and my wifes coupon skills we save a boatload of cash.

we also fill our vehicles while we are down there. with the fred meyer points card I had enough points to get 10 cents off per gallon last time so the conversion to canadian worked out to 78 cents per litre.

for those of you that live near the border I recomend you look into the economics of cross border shopping but you really need to look into printing online coupons and getting the american newspapers that have coupon sections, its the use of coupons that saves you in a BIG way.

 

[steve604]

it's the way of the world right now. has anyone heard of taxes or costs of anything going down in the past few years. cost of everything constantly goes up and as long as there is some kind of excuse attached it's all fine.

i figure it all started with 9/11. costs of everything, especially insurance shot up huge and no one complained because there was a good excuse. ever since then there has been some kind of excuse of "beyond our control" for everything going up. hurricanes, earthquakes, tornados, terrorist attacks, environmental damage, wars etc.

every time there is a hurricane gas prices shoot up because of it but never return to the previous amount.

and i have to say, in gordo's defense :shakehead: he did inherit a financial and structural disaster for a province. bc was dead. he is gaining nothing personally from what he is trying to do. everyone knows this too but likes to forget. he actually got elected on the premise of raising our pst to somehow start to fix things. everyone knew what a disaster we were living in at the time and this is why he was elected. i personally think the bc govt is pointing bc in the right direction unlike our federal gov't which might as well not exist in this part of the country. we just subsidize quebec so they don't try and leave us again.

 

[desteurm]

I have no problem paying taxes but I wish I just had to pay one tax, once per year. They keep boasting about BC's income tax being one of the lowest rates in the country but then they grab it back on consumption taxes elsewhere. Just give me one bill so I know what my share is.

There should be no tax on used goods, because they colllected the tax when it was bought new. Now they are double dipping and we all know this is a party foul.

My arguement about consumption taxes is that there are those people that save all there money and those that spend. The spenders support the economy and create jobs, the savers pay less taxes and support nothing. Taxes should be equal all the way around whether you spend or not, so we should pay tax based on gross income and that's that. Taxing consumers heavily will result in a shift that will hurt the economy because people will be spending less and then govt revenues will drop. Once the revenues drop then they will shift back to raising income tax and retaining the consumption taxes.

Governments love inflation...the higher the costs, the more tax they generate. Meanwhile our income levels are static unless you are in the legilature or parliament. Then you vote yourself a raise again.

Either way we have to pay tax to support all of the social services and infrastructure we demand.

Did we need a new convention center? Many of us will never use this facility. Do we really need a retractable roof for BC place? Probably not. Do we need more casinos? Nope and I thought they were not going to expand gambling.

Even though this is one of the finest places in the world to live, I'm having a hard time justifying the costs/TAXES. Housing and taxes are way out of touch with the reality of my incomes. I am seriously considering defecting to Oregon. Housing is reasonably priced, there is no sales tax and the weather is quite mild.

 

[bcsavage]

government in general can go jump off a tall cliff as far as im concerned. to save myself some $$$ since I live so close to the border most of my grocery shopping is now done in lyndon and bellingham, we can't bring back any fresh fruit or veggies so thats still local. with the dollar, the price of product on the shelf down there, and my wifes coupon skills we save a boatload of cash.

we also fill our vehicles while we are down there. with the fred meyer points card I had enough points to get 10 cents off per gallon last time so the conversion to canadian worked out to 78 cents per litre.

for those of you that live near the border I recomend you look into the economics of cross border shopping but you really need to look into printing online coupons and getting the american newspapers that have coupon sections, its the use of coupons that saves you in a BIG way.

Thank you for being part of BC's economic problem by not keeping your dollars circulating locally and handing it directly to the US. Why don't you just move to the US traitor?

 

[lars]

I don't have a problem with paying taxes, even at the new level, but only if the money is being handled wisely by our government. That's where a lot of my gripes lie.

...lars

 

[d0ubledown]

Thank you for being part of BC's economic problem by not keeping your dollars circulating locally and handing it directly to the US. Why don't you just move to the US traitor?

wow...just wow.

for those that have the option of cross border shopping to save a significant amount of money...i say go for it. maybe you're just jealous that you cant take advantage of those kind of savings? quit the insults and trying to blame bc's economic problem on honest hardworking people trying to save money where they can and shop elsewhere.

i blame all the idiots that voted gordo back in this last round. thanks guys...we have you to thank for the HST.